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WMMS 100.7 Cleveland
October 5 2005
Maxwell: Make noise now
Applause and cheers
Maxwell: Yeah
Scott: Thank you very much (changes tone of voice to Elvis impersonation) thank you, thank you, thank you very much.
Maxwell: 100.7 WMMS Cleveland's Rock Station. Maxwell at the Buzzard Lounge with Scott Stapp. Dude, let me come out of the closet right now and say I take a lot of grief, but I'm a total Creed homo man.
Scott: Are you?
Maxwell: Really dude, like love you guys man, I mean...
Scott: Awesome man, awesome
Maxwell: It's a weird thing because when you get successful it's kinda....Creed was one of those bands where it was kinda like (changes tone of voice) "they suck man, they're corporate". But you guys sold millions and millions...
Scott: Corporate?
Maxwell:...you know what I mean, when you get any resemblance of success, people start throwing you under the bus.
Scott: Oh yeah. But I quit reading that stuff like in '98. I was like, I told everyone in my life, I was like good or bad I don't want to hear anything. And...a...so then you start hearing it from your friends.
Maxwell: right, yeah
Scott: The bad
Maxwell: Oh sure
Scott: No, behind your back
Scott laughs
Maxwell: Well, who ya talkin' about?
Scott: No one in particular, but anyway, you know let's move onto the next subject.
Maxwell: I was gonna say, I was down in, I was down in Tampa right when you guys started to blow up man. I was working at 98 Rock down there...
Scott: Really?
Maxwell: We were pretty instrumental in working with....
Scott: Really? So we've met before
Maxwell: Yeah, you guys played Livestocks down there...
Scott: Were you bald too then?
(Laughter from audience)
Maxwell: Yes
Scott: You were? Were you on a...the trailer with a... Bubba the Love Sponge?
Maxwell: Well, dude I'm not sure you're even allowed to say his name now anymore.
Scott: Really?
Maxwell: Well, you know this is a Clear Channel station, he got blown out 'cause of all the FCC stuff, but absolutely, yes
Scott: Right...you were there
Maxwell: Yes
Scott: Okay, I'm putting it together
Maxwell: I don't remember it either, but that's kinda what Livestock was all about down there.
Scott: Yeah, that's kinda what it was. Yeah, it's cool.
Maxwell: As long as people weren't trying to kill each other, you could get away with anything down there. One of the craziest musical festivals ever.
Scott: Yes
Maxwell: You guys headlined that, I think twice.
Scott: Yeah and what was that band where they had...the people were...a...a...
Maxwell: Genitortures
Scott: Yeah, yeah, they were, they were doing some stuff on stage. Remember that?
Maxwell: Yes, yeah, yeah. Well, dude we're so physced to have ya...
Scott: We can't talk about it.
Maxwell: Yeah, we're so physced to have ya dude. These people are so excited. I for one....
Scott: It's great to be here
Maxwell: ...totally excited
Scott: It's great to be here
Maxwell: A...let me ask you the first question, and then you can play for us and that's that. Man, the rumblings have been going on and on. I know you're working a brand new, a brand new project, but still and the rumors they're heating up that inevitably Creed get backs together...
Scott: Uh...
Maxwell: ...within a year and a half
Scott: Uh...
Maxwell: True?/False? any...
Scott: Okay...um...no...no...no...no...no...no...you know, I learned a lot of lessons a...in that situation and I don't wanna...I don't think they can be reversed and, and a... you know, I don't, I don't see any need to, you know...don't see any need to at all.
Maxwell: Well, you pretty much were the franchise dude.
Scott: Because, because I'm just, I'm just gonna keep on going and, and, and, and the music is gonna keep growing and, and a...here we are.
Maxwell: Now do you talk to any of those guys at all...
Scott:...Uh
Maxwell: What's that relationship like?...
Scott: ...a
Maxwell:...is there one there? Do you.....
Scott:...um...through attorneys
Laughter
Scott: I mean, you want...me...I'm...
Maxwell: So there's no friendship....
Scott: ....I'm honest dude...
Maxwell:...between like you and....
Scott:...I'm honest...
Maxwell:... Brian Marshall or Tremonti or any of those guys. You guys are...
Scott: ...um, you know I pray for'em every night.
Maxwell: uh-huh
Scott: ...and a...
Maxwell:...wow...
Scott:...that helped me learn to forgive because a... if you can't forgive then, then, it's still with ya, you know and, and, and so I called my dad and I said "dad, you know dad what do I do?" And he said "start praying for them. Start praying blessings on a... Alter Bridge"
Maxwell: Well they need them dude...
Scott: Start....
Maxwell: 'Cause their record tanked
Scott:...start, start, start, start
Maxwell: I don't think they worked. No one plays them anymore, so it was all...
Scott: start, start, start praying for 'em and praying success for their, for their careers and their families and, and I said "What? You're kidding me?" So I did, with my teeth gridding, and a...after about two months of that, it worked. All of a sudden the anger was gone and, and a...the revenge factor was gone and the "I'll show you" thing was gone and...a...so that's where I'm at.
Maxwell: Well awesome....a...you guys are from...
Scott: I mean, it sucks to...to...to lose friends, but sometimes the friends that you were friends with aren't the friends that you're friends with at that time anymore, they're different people and a...and if you realize that they're not ever going to change back to the person that you knew, um...you don't know that person anymore. And a... and, and sometimes you gotta trim the fat in your life and a... trim the drama and, and things that are negative...uh.. in your life and, and, and that doesn't necessarily mean, you know, them but that could be anything in, in your life and a...but they do fall into that category. So...
Maxwell: Speaking of which, I know that a, and I don't know how long ago this was but I know you had some personal problems you were kinda like Brett Favre-ing it right? Weren't you taking like a lot of Vicodin. Weren't you kinda wacked on...
Scott: Dude, I was taking about anything you could.....
Maxwell: ...and for Florida, that stuffs rampant down there, Vicodin, Oxies all that stuff...
Scott: No, I, I a...in order to continue touring...um... I a...I was taking prednisone shots 'cause I had two calluses on my vocal cords...um...and some other things just to get up on stage...um... because if I didn't do that then, because the people around me, that's all they cared about was the money and so, you know "you die and....
Maxwell: (Laughs)
Scott:...and a ...we'll collect the money"...and a... you know actually had I died...a...would've been like a Cobain situation, became martyr and a...everyone else would have got a little bit richer....um...so (in louder voice) Thank God I'm alive.
Maxwell: Yeah
Scott: You know, and a...
Maxwell: Now do you go to meetings or anything or am I getting too personal?
Scott: No, I don't go...I don't go to meetings.
Maxwell: Or was it just kind of time to make the decision to stop doing that. I know a lot of people have a real hard way to go when they stop doing stuff...
Scott: I wasn't doing it for recreational purposes. (Scott laughs) I was doing it to work. You know what I mean. I was doing it to, to, to get on stage, you know just like Brett Favre was doing it so he could throw footballs a...
Maxwell: He should start taking it again....seen how the Packers are playing (laughs)
Scott:(laughs) you're not the first person I've heard say that. But...a...you know...it,i t, it a... it you know, I grew up an athlete and a...and you know I looked at everything from a team concept and, and, and I felt at that time I was taking one for the team and a...it was very much not appreciated, um...but who cares man. Now we're here with The Great Divide and, and, and a new album and a new beginning and, and, and a...we're gonna rock on and, and, and just have a good time
(recording ends abruptly)
Maxwell (talking to audience member): Dude, you had a question and unfortunately I kinda beat you to it. I don't know if I'd want to ask him if Creed was ever getting back together
Audience member: No, no, no, no ,no
Maxwell: Sorry about that, I feel terrible
Scott: Hey, hey like Jordan said, 99.9% chance
Audience member: Oh
Scott: You can never say never man...
Audience member: Do you still say in contact with the other members?
Scott: No.
Audience member: No, okay
Scott: Through lawyers
Maxwell: And how 'bout you, you have a question for Scott. Who are you and where ya from?
Audience member: Sharon from Mayfield
Scott: Hi
Sharon: How does it feel starting over, um...
Scott: ...um...I don't feel like I'm starting over, I feel like, I feel like I'm, I'm just continuing on doing what I was always doing.
Sharon: What would you do differently?
Scott: A...what would I do differently then I did last time? I would say no, when I was sick or, or when I couldn't do it, I wouldn't try to push through it to make everyone happy. I'm kinda a person that, that a...doesn't wanna let people down and, and a...feels like he can, you know, like, you know whatever it takes you know I'll do to get it done um...and a...you can't always do that 'cause you could hurt yourself and a...you know that's what I would do differently. Good question.
Maxwell: Speaking of doing right by Cleveland, it was years ago you guys came here and I guess you were not really satisfied with one of your shows and you actually told people to hold onto their ticket and you came back and you played again. That's unheard of man, you know. I mean...
Scott: Well I....
Maxwell: Caring enough about what you do. That's really something that doesn't happen now.
Scott: Well thank you, thank you
Maxwell: The town loved you for it. That's all I hear about "they came back, they came back" you know. So in lieu of a Superbowl ring, you guys came back, we appreciate it
Scott: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, that sucks man - what happened to the Indians
Maxwell: We don't know. I'll tell you what happened dude, here's what happened. I hate to admit it - Ben Broussard, first baseman, actually sings and is a pretty decent musician...
Scott: Yeah
Maxwell: ...has a CD out and dude, they were red hot and we had Ben Broussard...
Scott: Did, did he, did he pull a Buckner? I didn't see the game, did a ball go between his legs?
Maxwell: He couldn't hit the ball, no one could hit the ball. Broussard shows up here, plays live for people in the Buzzard Lounge and then they lose every game since, so I really would rather not talk about....
Scott: Well don't let him do that again. I'm kidding...
Maxwell: Yeah, that was no good dude. The town was totally...but that's what Cleveland is "ah...maybe next year". Let's rename the city that.
Scott: The Browns ...you never know
Maxwell: Who do you root for?
Scott: I'm a Cowboy fan.
Maxwell: Really?
Scott: Yeah (inaudible)
Maxwell: How 'bout the Buccaneers? Any of the Florida teams? 2:30
Scott: Yeah, love the Bucs too. Cowboys and Bucs are my a...and Raiders are my three favorite teams. But the Cowboys are my favorite, favorite team. I used to wear Cowboys...you know when you're a kid and you have to put on your pj's.
Maxwell: Uh huh...right.
Scott: You know and you pull up your little things and you have your little...down to your ankles and your long sleeve shirt.
Maxwell: Because how old are you?
Scott: I'm a...as old as I wanna say today (Scott laughs)
Maxwell: Well then you kinda came up. You're in the cookie...You liked the team way back in the days of you know Roger Staubach, Tony Dorset
Scott: Danny White ...No (in response to Roger Staubach). Well, I don't really remember watching Roger Staubach play, but I remember watching Danny White play um...but I was alive um...during the last year, years, year, I think. Was I? Tony Dorset, Roger Staubach, yeah, yeah all those guys and a big Dallas / Pittsburgh rivalry, you know, you know I was around for that and then I was around when the Hulk first came out. And my mom said that I would run around in my Hulk pajamas going (changes tone of voice) "I the Hulk"
Laughter from audience
Scott: So...
Maxwell: So we shouldn't make you angry. Is that what you're telling me?
Scott: No. (changes tone of voice) You don't wanna see me when I'm angry (laughs)
Maxwell: Can you play some more for us Scott. We love having you here man.
Scott: Yeah man...um...whatta you guys wanna play?
Maxwell: Can we hear something new? Can we hear like the new...
Scott: Yeah...a...what did we...oh...this song you guys haven't heard this yet. Um, this song is called Surround Me. It's on the album, we've actually never played this before together
(recording ends abruptly)
Scott sings Surround Me acoustically
Maxwell: 100.7 WMMS Cleveland's rock station, we are in the Buzzard Lounge with Scott Stapp. Thank you.
Scott: The Buzzard Lounge is the first place in the world to hear that song.
Maxwell: Dude, it sounded good. Yeah, thank you,
Scott: Thank you
Maxwell: Thank you so much
Applause
Scott: Cold and everything
Maxwell: Yeah. Sounds great dude
Scott: Cold and everything.
Maxwell: Dude, love it, sounded great. Dude I gotta ask you, when you showed up here, you have quite the entourage, you got like 55 guys with little ear buds running here so it's kinda like the president is here. Do you A) do you hate black people? And B) (response from audience)..hold on a minute...Do you think President Bush hates black people, like Kanye West said, you know that whole, you know with the hurricane and the lack of response time
Scott: Do I think...do I think President Bush hates black people?
Maxwell: I think he hates all of us, personally but...
Scott:...um...Hell no, first of all. Do I hate black people?
Maxwell: No, well obviously you don't that was (inaudible)
Scott: ...um...No...I mean what kind of question is that?
Maxwell: I'm kidding, it was a joke
Scott: I know, I know, I know. But tell that....
Maxwell: I don't hate them either
Scott: Tell that to him before he kicks your ass
Maxwell: No dude, hey dude
Scott laughs
Maxwell: No dude, I don't hate you
Scott laughs
Scott: He's got his eye on you
Scott laughs
Maxwell: I'm half Jewish dude, people hate me more then they hate black people, come on...
Scott laughs
Scott:..oh God....
Maxwell: But what do you think of the response time and the fact that a lot of people are saying "man if those were white rich people, it wouldn't have been hanging around for 3 or 4 days, waiting for supplies...."
Scott: Dude, I think, I think people don't understand what happened. I think we did everything we could possibly do in that situation and a...you know I...I...I think the fall guy that, that resigned from his job a...his bullshit and a...you know pointing fingers during a natural disaster, I mean is bull crap, I mean, it's ...to blame it on, you know, our country likes to blame everything on everybody else and you know we like to find an excuse and a reason, in my opinion, to a...point the finger and a...you know I... I...I think everyone was such... in such shock, um.. you know it was just reaction (changes tone of voice and talks quickly)um... you know "do what we can do, do what we can do, do what we can do". I mean they're flying in choppers man you know trying to get people out of there one person at a time. I mean do we have enough choppers to get a million people out? I mean, come on man, you know we did what we could do, they got boats going in there I mean, you know they got everyone in the world sent as much as they could, I mean my foundation was running the a...the a, the largest Red Cross shelter in a... the Louisiana, Arkansas, Texas area...um and you know we had 2,000 people a...in there...in and out of there everyday...a...you know we were providing food, shelter, clothes, a...you know and , that was...that was a... you know quite an expensive thing...um but you know just....just trying to do what I can do...you know but, it wasn't enough so, someone could say "hey man, you only, you only, you only helped 2,000 people" you know, "F U" you know so it's like come on, you know everyone did the best they could and it's a tragedy and you know we just need to continue to do what we can do and, and , and try to think about it personally, like you know, what if every single one of you guys in this room all of a sudden lost every single thing you had, except the clothes on your back, you know and your house is flattened and you have no memories a...you know every memory you had in an album is gone you know, everything...no money, you know, it's, it's tough.
Maxwell: Now what would you say to the people, because like I said prior, I lived down in Florida for 3 ½ years and we had to pack up our stuff when I was down there, twice. One was for hurricane George that never hit
Scott: Yep
Maxwell: but they thought it was going to. And there's a mentality that kinda says "well you kinda knew that going into it, you're in New Orleans, you people live in this city that's below sea level, you should've expected it" What's your take on that? 'Cause that's what a lot of people are saying.
Scott: That's cold and heartless...um...you know, you don't say that. Yes, it's true I mean you know they do, they are below sea level and they thought they were prepared with their levies and, and, and, and their protection...um...but you know gettin' hit by a category 5 hurricane, you know I don't think directly, you know I...I...I.. don't think they were expecting and, and a but I guess we learned a lesson and all we can do in life is learn from our mistakes and try to keep growing. That's my philosophy
Maxwell: Cool
Scott:....and a...sometimes you make the same mistake twice or three times or four times or five times or six times but you learn something different from every time you make that mistake. And we definitely learned something I...I think everybody in the hurricane zones take hurricanes a lot more seriously now, you know, there's not a bunch a guys out front going...drinking beers going (changes tone of voice)"hey man, I love the wind..weeee...blow me over, blow me over" you know I mean it's, it's like (changes tone of voice) "dude get out here" and then a board smacks them upside the head and their dead.,
Maxwell: That's kinda what we did. That was our mentality was kinda pack everything up, head inland and throw huge a party
Scott: Well I mean if you're safe and out of the hurricane, throw a party, you know I mean but you don't get in the hurricane and (changes tone of voice) "whoa man the wind's blowin' me sideways" and you know there's like boards and stuff, you know that's kinda the mentality a lot of people had going into it before and, and, and I think it's changed. I know, I know as soon as I think, you know ones getting close you know I'm family... outta there you... know and then it misses and I'm like "phhss god I just spent all that money". I'm just kidding, you know better be safe then sorry, you know that's why I carry a gun.
Maxwell: Well, you're from Florida dude, which is real liberal when it comes to concealed carry. Absolutely dude.
Scott laughs
Maxwell: are you serious do you really carry...
Scott: not right this second
Maxwell: are you kidding me...but you're from Florida which is a very, very liberal state...
Scott: (changes tone of voice) I keep it in my gun rack on my truck
Maxwell: Do you have guns?
Scott: (changes tone of voice) but if it's at night time I turn on my headlights and I just run that deer over boy. Know what I'm sayin' (Scott laughs)
Maxwell: No, seriously do you have guns...you gotta have guns you're from Florida like everyone in Florida has guns
Scott: Yeah, I have guns
Maxwell: Really
Scott: Lots and lots of guns
Maxwell: Do you really?
Scott: If Al Queda ever comes down my street, they don't wanna come down my street. (changes tone of voice) Al Queda...Taliban (Scott laughs).
Maxwell: A dude let me, let me ask you this and I'm gonna admit this right now , you kinda made a whole generation of us, I'm 35 and I have a daughter that's 9...
Scott: Yep
Maxwell: You kinda, you kinda how do I say this... You kinda made a whole generation of dudes, seriously like cry dude like when....I'm not kidding, I'm man enough to admit it but like With Arms Wide Open it's kinda like my theme song for my daughter's relationship...
Scott:: Yeah man
Maxwell: So I would like to personally thank you 'cause that's kinda the soundtrack for that. But do a lot of guys say "yeah dude you just kinda like made us weep, and it's cool"
Scott: A...yeah...you know I've heard that. I've always you know heard a you inspired me to want to have a child.
Maxwell: well I bet you hear that from a lot of the ladies in here will probably be willing to make that happen for you right now (Scott laughs)... I thought maybe even some of the men
Scott: Now if a man in this room can get pregnant..oh my god...I'm scared, I'm outta Cleveland. Let's go AD. But a...yeah you know and it's, it's bigger then me man, you know it's it's it's, I can't fathom you know the impact and, and what all that really means and a put it in any real perspective, you know I can just take that moment between you and I and what you just said to me and, and, and try to genuinely understand it and say thank you and, and...
Maxwell: Well thank you man
Scott:...and, and, and appreciate it. On a grand scale you know it's, it's hard to put that in perspective and to digest it and I think, I think, I think it's the people who do, that their heads start swelling and they start changing who they really are and a...
Maxwell: Well, we thank you for our skirts dude.
Scott: Your skirts?
Maxwell: For the skirt I wear for like showing my sensitive side
Scott: Dude, man, it's okay, it's okay just walk that line, walk that line.
Maxwell: Yeah, unreal
Scott: (changes tone of voice) You gotta keep it real man
Maxwell: Anyone gotta a quick question for Scott while he's tuning, anyone wanna ask him a question , we got time for one, anyone, anyone, any of the ladies?
Scott: I can't hear you, talk into the microphone
male voice: You want me to tell you, if you wanna do something other then Great Divide, you're more then welcome to, I just wanna tell you
Scott: A......no..we'll do Great Divide.
Maxwell: Cool
Scott: But a...
Maxwell: Something new....
Scott: ....any more questions or...anyone?
Maxwell: Come up here and get on the mike.
Question from audience member: (inaudible)
Scott: My son will be 7 October 21st
Maxwell: Wow, awesome
Scott: Yeah, yeah. And a lot of people think I'm married. I've been divorced going on a six and something years.
Maxwell: Oh wow
Scott: So, wanna make that clear to Cleveland, all you ladies out there. (deepens voice) All you ladies out there.
Maxwell: Alright, Scott's gonna play something new for us now
Scott: Yeah, this..well not...Great Divide. You know, it's new, isn't it? Kind of...
Maxwell: Somewhat
Scott: Somewhat. It's like my songs been out two weeks and people are like (changes tone of voice) "when he's putting out another one, I wanna hear another one." Dude man, I just put a song out and shot a video
(recording ends abruptly)
Scott sings The Great Divide acoustically
.Transcribed by Robyn